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Hey guys!

[livejournal.com profile] imreadytojump and I got to talking lately, and we decided to start a new Zaylor community. It's for fanfics, fanart, videos, and just general squeeing over our favorite, unnaturally touchy-feely-starey brothers. But the thing that makes it kind of different from other Hancest-centric communities is... we don't care about the sex. Or it's one of the least important factors, at least. I realize some of you just completely lost any and all interest you had in joining after reading that, and that's totally fine. But if you're still interested in sharing fanfics/art/vids/ideas about Zaylor that have less sex in them, we'd love to have you! You can find out more by visiting the community and reading the info and rules.

[livejournal.com profile] x_handsclean_x

I've been doing a lot of thinking about what I loved about Zaylor, and what drew me into writing fics, and which fics of mine I'm most proud of, and which fics by other people are most special to me. I don't know if I've just been in this writing community of ours for long enough now to have seen the less "innocent" side of it, but I really miss how I used to feel about it. I know that [livejournal.com profile] imreadytojump feels something very similar, and I'm not sure if this new comm will help us to get back some of what we feel we've lost, but we're hoping it will. And if not... well, we'll deal with that later. lol We just want something of a fresh start, I guess.

Hope to see some of you there! Please spread the word if you think you know anyone who might be interested in joining!

on 2010-07-12 09:20 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] vagarical.livejournal.com
Ohhh, I know I write my fair share of non innocent fics but I really LOVE this idea - I really do love the innocense a lot of the time too... and I've written some innocent fics as well. ^^ (actually my first Zaylor video was barely even cestual...)

Aaanyway, ramble ramble, long story short, thanks for making this and I'm definitely joining. :) I also love the name!

on 2010-07-12 09:29 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] breathe-abreath.livejournal.com
Aww, I'm really glad you like the idea.

I don't know what it is lately, I just feel very different about it all. I still love Zaylor and I love writing, but I miss how it felt a couple of years ago. Maybe I'm never going to feel that way again, maybe it's something you only get to feel at the start and not again, but I'm gonna try everything I can think of to get it back.

I just remember that when I got into Zaylor, the first fic I read had no sex in it. It was like 100 chapters long and it mentioned sex and had some sexual stuff, but nothing graphic at all. And the first fic I wrote barely had any sex in it. It had like... one sex scene, and that was very vague and in no way graphic. And then slowly I got sucked into this mentality of sex scenes = better stories, and I let other people convince me to write smut, and it was fun for a while and I'm glad I challenged myself to write sex scenes when I never thought I could, but I'm kinda done now. I mean, I'll write it if I feel it actually contributes something to the story, but otherwise I don't see the point.

I don't know. I just miss how it felt before, and I'm trying to figure out how to get that feeling back again.

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on 2010-07-12 10:56 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] vagarical.livejournal.com
Yeaahh... I know it feels a bit like... now that they grew up, and the writers I assume are also older, and it's ok to write sex there is a lot of it.

I mean I enjoy the smut. But sometimes it's nice to just blissfully escape into something more innocent. Especially if it's when they are really young!

So yes it's going to be nice to have a place that I can escape away and hide from smut. If it works out which I hope it does. :)

on 2010-07-12 11:14 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] breathe-abreath.livejournal.com
I don't even think it's just that they/we are older. I mean, when I got into Zaylor, Zac was 22 and Tay was 24, so they weren't teenagers or anything, and I was 24, too, so I wasn't "young". And there were fics around back then that had sex/smut in them, but it didn't seem there were as many.

I have nothing against sex scenes in fics, I enjoy them from time to time, I just feel kind of overwhelmed by them lately. lol I just have this very strong desire to go back to reading and writing stories that have very small amounts of sex in them.

But sometimes it's nice to just blissfully escape into something more innocent. Especially if it's when they are really young!

I agree. I really find Baby Zaylor difficult to get into, personally. I think Sammy's is the only one that I've ever been able to deal with, because it has so much heart (because SHE has such a big heart). But most of the time if they're too young and getting too physical, I just feel like too much of a creeper reading it. I think 13 is the youngest I've ever been able to write Zac while he and Tay are fooling around. I just cannot picture little TTMON Zac doing anything sexual with anyone, I don't want too. lmao

on 2010-07-12 11:28 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] vagarical.livejournal.com
Actually yeah there has been a lot of sex scenes lately... I mean I stopped reading hancest a few years back so when I came back I kinda thought that might be the norm now or something, but I guess not. :P

I think my next long Zaylor might end up having no sex at all in it actually, and my current has had one chapter with it so far lol. I tend to waste all my smut ideas on one shots and end up having less of it in my chaptered fics, I think...

Yeaahhh... I read (and write, but I think ebven my R rated baby Zay was kinda tame) Baby Zaylor but if it gets really physical I sometimes end up picturing Zac being a little older. He just seemed so innocent back then! And I definitely don't like... if it's hot enough for me to get hot... when they're KIDS. It's a bit creepy to imagine that... :S

And yup I love Sammy's fic but Zac is so precious in it! :)

on 2010-07-12 09:51 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] hear-myself.livejournal.com
Maybe this will inspire a bit of writing on my part... it's because of the sex that I stay completely away from writing any Zaylor fics.

I really like the idea of the community :)

on 2010-07-12 11:16 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] breathe-abreath.livejournal.com
:) I hope it does inspire you to write! :) What is it about the sex that has kept you away from writing? Because you don't want to write it or feel you can't, or something else?

on 2010-07-12 11:21 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] hear-myself.livejournal.com
I just never felt capable of writing it to be honest. I feel incredibly awkward trying to describe anything sex-related. I can write about a kiss here and there, but anything more just feels very weird when I try and write about it.

on 2010-07-12 11:33 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] breathe-abreath.livejournal.com
I hear ya! I still get like that. I never used to be able to write sex scenes, and I still feel really awkward doing it. I read over stuff I've written and just cringe and think it's awful. I still can't use "smut" words. lmao I just really hate writing sex scenes most of the time. If it feels like it's important to the story somehow, I'll try, but it usually doesn't feel all that vital anymore. I used to care whether or not people wanted me to write sex into my stories, but now I don't. I'll be sad if I lose readers because I write less sex, but... *shrugs*

I don't think you should write anything you're uncomfortable with. It is good to push yourself a little sometimes and try new things, but if you're happy to write stories without smut, I know at least a few people who will be happy to read them. ;)

on 2010-07-12 11:46 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rachie-grl6.livejournal.com
I'm kind of excited to use this as a challenge for myself to write something more innocent.

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